Review system for NSmen who fail IPPT

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• why whine so much? i used to be unable to do chin ups and jump the required distance for broad jump. after attending R.T., that was rectified. R.T. is of use, although i would have to agree it may not be the case for everyone. that said, how would you like it if in the unlikely event that we are attacked, we have a force full of overweight NSMen to defend us.
  In any case, it is only to our benefit that we are required to keep fit.

• MINDEF IB spotted. Again brushing off genuine concerns for the people vs preserving status quo.

• Do you think passing ippt and obtain a silver , proof that you are fit, I tell you, you can enjoy that illusion in your mind, you are wrong, a number person who fail the ippt are even fitter than those who pass

• "I have friends who can run full marathons but are unable to jump 1.6m or do six chin-ups. Does this mean they are unfit?"

  Can train for marathons but not can't train to jump 1.6m or do 6 pull ups? Come on... Kenyan long distance runners make better soldiers than a silver ippt unfit singaporean?

• alex is obviously one of those arrogant young punks who is still serving his NS and look down on 'unfit', 'unruly' reservist uncles. Wait till alex pass 30, get married, have to look after kids, nagging wife, and unsympathetic boss while fighting to defend his job from FT who don't need serve NS or do reservist or do RT. Then he will understand reality.

• lol @ the first comment by PAP IB. Come on lah, where got sinkie have such good thing to say about RT one? want to fake also use your brain can?

• It's easy to give criticisms and point out flaws with the current system. But what people do not do is to provide solutions. Why not come up with a better method to determine the soldier fitness before going on about how the current system is all bad. No doubt it has its flaws but until someone figures out a better solution, the current system is probably better than not having a system in place.

  IPPT doesn't determine combat fitness but seriously, you'd rather go on a 24km route march, combat shoots, obstacle courses, and all the other outfield nonsense than to do some basic exercises in pt kit?

• the reason y all SINGAPOREANS must do all this because we are short of manpower.. .. but come on we got our own responsibility. and howabout the foreign workers who work here for years and do nothing and the best part they are given priorities instead of the singaporeans. THINK ABOUT THAT! LETS TALK ABOUT THE FAIRNESS OF THE CITIZEN!

• those that are doing "shift work" will hafta kena charge... where got time to clear RT...
  Lao Uncle got point there. it's either u off work early kena deduct pay go RT, or u dun go RT kena charge...
  being fit doesnt mean u will win at war. there are people who are damn bloody fit but are bobo shooters and vice versa. war = technical ability of troops, not fitness of troops... moreover, nowadays youngsters will flee if war is approaching... even if they damn fit aso no use...

• @Kenneth

  I wanted to let the comments flow freely and not chip in, but I had to cos of you.

  People like you harm free debate the most with your pathetic rhetoric. I hate the term 'constructive criticism' which is an oxymoron.

  Stop asking people to provide solutions! It is the government's job.

  If you go eat at KFC and found a lizard in your burger, do you need to give KFC recommendations on how they can improve food hygiene before you complain?

  Following your flawed logic, if I slapped you in the face, you would need to suggest to me how I can control my anger before you retaliate.

  Don't be a lame duck.

  You compared route march and field camp with IPPT which are totally different things. The latter fall under ICT training. This is one of the most flawed and lousy excuse of a rebuttal I have ever come across.

  Argue with your brain.