I saw this disturbing video via Lucky Tan’s blog:
From 01:00 onwards to 24:00, a Singaporean guy named Tan Seow How from Heart of God Church shared with a Russian youth church group on how he make use of children to bring their friends to his church and convert them, circumventing Singapore’s school regulation which prevents him from reaching out directly.
He went on to share with the congregation of Russian youths on the importance of giving and tithing to the church.
Some fantastic quotes from Tan Seow How in the video:
– “If you reach the schools, you can build the church”
– “Whenever you have a youth minstry, you will always have a strong church”
– “When young people learn to give, God would prosper them”
– “You may be poor now but you won’t be poor forever, but you must learn how to give”
– “I wanted a church that is built by young people, even financially supported by young people”
Some screen grabs from the video, featuring many young people under 18 with their respective schools, number of friends converted and contribution amount:
I kept a copy in case the video gets deleted when it goes viral.
Btw, the Heart of God Church is listed as an affiliate church to City Harvest Church:
“Under the mentoring of Rev. Kong Hee, senior minister of City Harvest Church (CHC) Singapore, and the leadership of Senior Pastor Tan Seow How and his wife Co-Senior Pastor Cecilia Chan, Heart of God Harvest Church (HOGHC) has witnessed incredible growth since its official registration in August 1999.
HOGHC started conducting church services in a small premise at Henderson Industrial Park. The congregation rapidly outgrew their premises and HOGHC shifted to the heart of the city in Dhoby Ghaut on 12 December 2004. It was a great step of faith considering the high rent for a city space, but God provided and the church grew. The premises soon became too small again, and HOGHC moved into Singpost Centre on 11 August 2007.
The uniqueness of HOGHC is its strength in youth ministry. Youths make up three quarters of the congregation; the church is youth-run and youth-operated. Senior Pastors Seow How & Cecilia place a strong emphasis on Christian character building, aiming to equip the younger generations with leadership skills and being trained up in Godly values. HOGHC also believes in academic excellence, having faith that youths can excel in their studies and serve God at the same time.
The church also accentuates the importance of family life, reaching out to parents of the youths, bridging the different generations together in the process.
To date, this vibrant church continues to change and impact lives through its weekly church services, connect group meetings, ministry, Bible studies and active discipleship. HOGHC has been averaging more than 1,100 people in its weekly services as of September 2008.”
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Hey Alvin. Good call, the video did get deleted. Are you able to upload your copy?
Alvin,
:Lucky here.
That was really great foresight of you to save a copy of the video because it has been deleted from Youtube.
I was troubled by the video but now the alarm bells are really ringing - the church is linked to CHC and also teaches the prosperity gospel...to children!
Wonder if you can email me a copy of the video. My email seeker9912@yahoo.com. I think we really need to bring up the awareness on this.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, please post another copy. More MPs need to watch this too.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14194&start=390
read this and you know how they infiltrate into the schools, they have an enrichment center plus giving carrots like free creative writing class!
I have uploaded the video back on youtube.
Alvin...from your blog you are stating all your feeling but have you ever think maybe you could be wrong? These youth give in faith and these lives have changed. If you are so free to find and upload all these videos, why not you go and interview some of the youths there....I have from Heart of God church but I have seen these youths happily serving God and they seem more matured than you. Maybe you should go and see the church for urself before you comment. The love from these pastors has touched these kids that thier lives had been transformed. Do not slander this church as you are slandering God's family.
The way you speak, we all know you're just scared! Was Jesus scared that He was slandered? NO you son of a b***. I'm so pissed of by stupid people like you. Who are wolves in sheep's clothing, thinking that you're doing service to God by pretending to be good. I was in that church and the first time I was there, my heart told me to RUN! The sermon had no substance. I was ill for a year and read my bible everyday for recovery. When I finally recovered, I wanted to attend another church but because I wanted company, I SETTLED for HOGC. Lesson learned, NEVER SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS. The first time I was there, my heart riled up like crazy, I couldn't help but feel the ghost of CHC. My first visit to HOGC was reminded me of the essence of my leaving CHC at age 13. I went there when I was 12-13 and was an on fire Christian for God but left because all they cared about was my attendance rather than my growth. Even at 13 I knew this, had to be God's giving of knowledge. Praise God. Only after I left HOGC did I find out that it was related to CHC. Truth be told, I learned nothing at HOGC. I'm definitely way mature and have experienced many things in life. & would I ever want to learn anything from HOGC? No. Nothing of the heart. Maybe if I want material things, things that satisfy the flesh but not the heart, I would place myself in HOGC. But Jesus doesn't teach any of that. HOGC is a church full of judgmental people who can't build skin deep relationships with ya because there is no substance on the inside. All HOGC people speak only 1 way let me tell you. They speak in a textbook way that's out of anger or fear. Those fake stewarts of God. Ain't nobody got time for that. & really? Did people's lives really change? NO. My friend who was there for 6 years, nothing fucking changed. He did not get any more intelligent, nothing. His faith couldn't even hold a candle to a person who only knew Christ for a year. It's all just a false belief that you want to believe. Sure there are good people in church, but the bad, too many. A lot of fake people. I prefer people who are real and of substance and not just pretending to be nice? So to you NG, I bet you're one of the fakes. Go get a REAL life, and have a REAL relationship with CHRIST, idiot.
People are happy in and out of church. People who don't go to church are happy too. So saying that you're HAPPY in that church, is just really vague and shows of your low intelligence. The zone that I was in, was filled with judgmental people. In fact the whole church was like this. Whatever the pastors are, whatever the listeners will be.
I learned nothing of wisdom there. I swept off the dust of my feet when I left that place. It was a waste of my precious time. And why teens are happy there right? If you realised, the type of teens that go there, the demographics of the church.. and the type of people. They aren't exactly bad people, but everyone else in the world is like that too. Aren't exactly bad people aren't exactly good either. I can't speak for the young teens that go there but I know that, a group of the girl friends that I made there, left and felt the same way that I felt during their time in HOGC.
Love,
Anon Girl
I'm not exactly a fan of hogc either but your comment pains me, could you at least put it nicer? the way u typed your comment really contradicts your claimed maturity you supposedly got in life. they are still part of the body of Christ they still love the same God they arnt against you so why can't you just cut them some slack, if you can't even love your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, how are you to love the lost?
Ng: Thanks for the comment. Glad you are happy at Heart of God Church.
I did not state any "feeling" in my whole blog post except for the word "disturbing" used to describe the video. Read my whole blog post again. Everything was quoted from the video or from CHC. Neither did I "slander" your church or "slander" God's family. I know better than to poke into other's religious beliefs.
How can I be "wrong" when I just copy and paste everything from the sources directly? (unless the sources themselves are wrong or slandering themselves)
I believe many youths had problems in their lives such as bad relationship with their family, bullied in school, gangsters etc where they got saved and lives transformed for the better. Give it a try to listen to their testimonies in churches around sg. And i believe u will be moved and touched, that there are people out there salvaging the broken ones.
Yes, you did not slander but the way you put it is totally out of context. I did not understand your point of re-uploading this video again and again. What are you trying to proof? I find it nothing wrong to teach about giving at a young age. I applaud them for successfully being able to reach out to youths and changing them, i have seldom seen effective youth groups/movement like theirs including non religious ones. Trust me, i have done my research.
hea4t1: If there is nothing wrong with the video content, why was it deleted? I was not the one who deleted it nor uploaded first initially. I did not upload the video "again and again". Only once after it was taken down with no reasons given.
I did not state anything was wrong with the video. Everyone can draw their own conclusion. Why do you see things so negatively? If you are happy giving, happy contributing, happy attending the church, by all means go ahead. It's your life.